(j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4204) RE: RE: 43 Fortran compilers

[Walt Brainerd]

Just to add to the confusion:

a) CDC has a Fortran compiler on the 1604 (Cray's first design,
perhaps, and

b) While a grad student at Purdue in the '60s, I used PUFFT, Purdue
U. Fast Fortran Translator, a system much like Watfor, that processed
a while bunch of student Fortran jobs as one batch. I remember going
there and try a program consisting of END. It took something like
40 sec to process it as a regular IBM batch program. Hence PUFFT.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Bill Long <longb at cray.com> wrote:

> I suspect the University of Waterloo compilers were Watfor and Watfiv.
> These are what were used in by the programming classes I took as an
> undergrad (1969-73) on an IBM 360/65.  These "compilers" were really
> interpreters that translated the code very quickly and produced detailed
> error messages, including at runtime.  The execution speed was poor.
> However, for a bunch of newbie programmers who compiled a program many times
> before it ran (those were the other clowns in the class, not me, of course
> :) )  this was the ideal balance.  Even when I migrated to the IBM Fortran
> "H" compiler (much better execution performance), Watfiv was still useful as
> a debugging tool.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
>
> Loren P Meissner wrote:
>
>> There was some Fortran language research going on at Univ of Waterloo (in
>> Ont, Canada) by 1974.
>> My copy of papers from JPL/SIGNUM Fortran Preprocessor Workshop (Nov 1974)
>> [which was largely motivated by Fortran response to the "structured
>> programming" fad] includes a one-page paper "Designing a portable
>> preprocessor" by M Malcolm and L Rogers of Waterloo. It mentions "Altran
>> translator and run-time support software are written in portable Fortran
>> except for some M6 macro calls . The M6 macro processor is written in
>> portable Fortran ." - Was this "portable Fortran" the same as "Waterloo
>> Fortran"?
>>
>> Loren P Meissner
>> (Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations?)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: j3-bounces at j3-fortran.org [mailto:j3-bounces at j3-fortran.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Bill Long
>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:03 PM
>> To: fortran standards email list for J3
>> Cc: sc22wg5 at open-std.org
>> Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4198) RE: 43 Fortran compilers
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian D Chivers wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested in knowing what they were.
>>>
>>> I worked at Imperial College from 1978-1986 On CDC kit mainly (6400,
>>> 6500, 170, 174) and we had
>>>    CDC Fortran
>>>  Minnesota Fortran
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, M77.  I looked at the manual and found that, in 1980, M77 had the
>> radical extension of A .op. B where op was and, or, xor, ... and A and B
>> were numeric type variables, with the operations bitwise.  Only 30 years
>> ago.  Maybe this idea needs a bit more time to mature. :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> As the main two supported Fortran compilers.
>>>
>>> I also vaguely remember a Waterloo Fortran.
>>>
>>> There was a CDC 1700 and I think that had a Fortran compiler.
>>> Would that have counted as another compiler?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> ian
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: j3-bounces at j3-fortran.org [mailto:j3-bounces at j3-fortran.org] On
>>> Behalf Of David Muxworthy
>>> Sent: 01 March 2010 17:47
>>> To: sc22wg5 at open-std.org
>>> Subject: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4197) 43 Fortran compilers
>>>
>>> One or two people seemed surprised when I said at the WG5 meeting that
>>> there were 43 Fortran compilers in the early 1960s.  The figure was taken
>>> from Oswald, H. (1964), 'The various Fortrans', Datamation vol 10 (August),
>>> pp 25-29.  Oswald was reviewing 16 different Fortran systems.  I think I
>>> also said outside the meeting that the first Fortran on a non-IBM machine
>>> was in 1961-2.  In fact it was in 1960 on a Philco 2000, but not called
>>> Fortran.  The first non-IBM 'Fortran' was on a Univac SS80 in 1961.
>>>
>>> David
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